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The Truth of the Matter Is

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The best way to learn Disney history is to get it from the people who helped make it. Rolly Crump made a lot of Disney history.

Rolly was hired by Walt Disney Studios in 1952 to work as an artist and animator on such classic movies as Peter Pan, Lady and the Tramp, Sleeping Beauty, and 101 Dalmations. In 1959, Rolly joined WED ('Walter Elias Disney'), the original name for Walt Disney Imagineering. At WED, Rolly became one of the chief designers for such classic attractions as Haunted Mansion, Enchanted Tiki Room, and It's a Small World.

Rolly worked closely with Walt Disney for many years. The friendship between the two men and Rolly's long tenure with the company puts him in an increasingly rare position: he can relate important episodes of early Disney history first-hand, and he can do so without notes or sources because he experienced it himself.

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The Many Names of Rolly Crump

How Rolly Became 'Rolly' to Walt Disney

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It's my honor to welcome Rolly Crump to Disney Dispatch.

In this opening 'arc' of his new column, The Truth of the Matter Is, Rolly will share some of his many personal memories of Walt Disney. His stories concern not so much Walt the icon but Walt the man: a decent, humorous, down-to-earth genius. The real Walt Disney.

Rolly Crump is now a familiar name. But years ago, when Rolly began his Disney career, Walt wasn't quite sure what to call him. Here's the story of how Walt finally settled on 'Rolly' ... and how it stuck!

I first met Walt Disney when I joined WED in 1959.

Walt said, "Roland, it's nice to have you aboard."

"Thank you, sir; thank you, Mr. Disney," I replied.

Walt then said, "Roland, the name is Walt, and don't you forget it".

"Yes, sir, I'll do that".

From Roland to Rolly

I'd been sitting in on meetings with Walt for over a year when all of a sudden he started calling me Owen.

I finally figured out that the reason he called me Owen was because there was a writer who wrote for the live action pictures and his name was OWEN Crump. I think Walt mixed up his Owen and his Roland.

So I was Owen Crump for awhile, and then I became Orland. I don't know where that came from. I spoke with Walt's daughter one time and she said that Walt always had trouble with names.

But as far as I was concerned, Walt could call me whatever he wanted.

The coup de grace happened one day when Walt and I were in a meeting with Yale Gracey to talk about The Haunted Mansion. Walt turned to Yale and said, "I want you to work on the Mansion together with [and here he pointed to me] What's His Name".

So I became "What's His Name', which I got a big kick out of.

Rolly: A Round-Trip!

Eventually, though, Walt gave me the nickname Rolly, and that's what has stayed with me.

The interesting thing is that I was called Rolly when I was a little kid because I'm a junior - Roland Fargo Crump, Jr. - and so my family used to call me little Rolly, and now here I was being called Rolly again by Walt Disney.

Bob Gurr and Marty Sklar still call me Orland, but for everyone else it's Walt's nickname of Rolly that has stuck.

Next Monday:
Rolly will have the first of a three-part tale about The Tower of the Four Winds with more personal recollections of Walt Disney. Believe me, you don't want to miss it!

Rolly has thousands of tales to tell and he'll be around for a long time telling them.

If you'd like to hear a few stories directly from Rolly himself, buy 'A Walk in the Park with Rolly Crump', an hour-long audio tour available from Kenbow Communications in which Rolly takes you for a stroll down Disneyland's Main Street through the areas of the park that he had a hand in creating. It's the best $4.95 you'll ever spend.

You can also hear on iTunes Rolly's interview with DisneyDispatch columnist Jeff Heimbuch on iTunes for free (or download it if you don't have iTunes), and you can read an excerpt of it in a recent installment of Jeff's column, From the Mouth of the Mouse.

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Comments (17)

Like everyone else, I am just as surprised by this welcome treat! I really can't wait to read the other stories that Rolly has to share. Thanks for continuing to contribute to the site, Rolly!
Jeff Heimbuch - 2/21/2011 @ 11:11 AM
Wow!! This is a great surprise and a fantastic column. Rolly, you're a true hero and I can't wait every week to read what else you have to say!
Happiest Reader - 2/21/2011 @ 11:31 AM
I love your story, Rolly. It's so nice to hear warm, personal tales of Walt Disney and the Disney parks instead of the textbook stuff that's on so many other sites today. I promise to be here for everyone of your thousands of tales.
Al B. - 2/21/2011 @ 11:32 AM
This is such a super story, Rolly. I've read the Walt Disney biographies, but what's missing is stories like this one to really give the 'human' side to the man. And it's absotluely true that the best place to learn about history is from the people there at the time. I am super stoked about reading more from you!!!
John Cartee - 2/21/2011 @ 11:58 AM
Orland? Did you know, Rolly, that there is an 'Orland Park' in Illinois, probably not that far from Walt's hometown of Marcelline? Maybe that's where he got the name?
William Dickerson - 2/21/2011 @ 12:01 PM
This site probably has more DIFFERENT articles on it than any other Disney site and I've been reading from the very beginning. But Rolly you being here makes it my FIRST stop every Monday - yes, before I read the news, before I check out the weather, even before I check my email. Wish you could do it every day!
Jen - 2/21/2011 @ 12:15 PM
Well this is a great surprise!

I can't wait to hear what Rolly has in store for us - the stories of Walt from "in the trenches" are always the best.
Michael Crawford - 2/21/2011 @ 12:18 PM
Rolly, we've actually met once or twice, and I want everyone to know that you're every bit as funny and sincere as you come off here in your column (which by the way is now my favorite column of all time!)

I've listened to your interviews on Disney podcasts and I'm never bored for ever a second. I believe you do have thousands of tales to tell and I like how you're making them so personal. I've probably read enough Disney history to last me a lifetime but learning these neat little things about Walt makes such a huge difference between knowing about Disney and understanding it.

My hat off to you sir and my promise that I'll be here every week.
Epcot Pioneer - 2/21/2011 @ 12:19 PM
Rolly, you look great, and your story about how Walt Disney gave you your name is such a sweet one. It's so nice that the name your family called you was the one that Walt picked to call you, too. These are the 'little' stories that we're missing today - not little because they're not important, please don't get me wrong, but little because they deal with small things that really do mean so much. I don't think that made any sense maybe I'll just say LOVE YOUR NEW COLUMN!!
Deanna - 2/21/2011 @ 12:29 PM
I read this site everyday but I've never left a comment until now. Rolly, your story really brought Walt Disney to life for me in a new way. Please, please keep giving us more stories like that.
Barb S - 2/21/2011 @ 2:51 PM
So Walt had a hard time remembering names! Interesting! It makes him all the more human which I guess is what you're trying to do. I guess it's possible after all to write about him right down the middle and not like so many other people do, either finding lots of fault with him or no fault with him at all. I guess the "truth of the matter" is somewhere between and I'm looking forward to reading more about it.
Bryan Doyle - 2/21/2011 @ 2:56 PM
I own your audio tour Rolly and have listened to it several times. I am beyond happy to find more of your stories here. Those early days at Disney must have been marvelous! I love hearing about them.
DC - 2/21/2011 @ 4:17 PM
I don't know what I can say that everybody else hasn't already said so I'll just say ... thank you!
Frank - 2/21/2011 @ 4:18 PM
Wow! Welcome to the Disptach Mr. Crump! I am so excited to read your stories! Thank you for taking the time to share with us!
Abby - 2/21/2011 @ 5:15 PM
Hello there sunshine...I'll be here every week to catch your latest lies, especially when you change history like Ward Kimball did, correcting everybody else's tales. I'll be waiting for your story number 72, 'cause it'll beat my 71 on LP. OK Rolly, crank it up!
Bob Gurr - 2/23/2011 @ 10:19 AM
Orland .. hmmm. Add an 'o' and you've got Orlando. Maybe Walt was already thinking about where he would put Disney World. And If you add an 'R' to Orlando, you get Rolando which makes me think, Rolly, that you were more instrumental in Disney World than you're letting us know!!
Martin - 2/24/2011 @ 1:02 PM
Mr Gurr: a treat to find you here as Rolly's watchdog. It's beginning to feel like the old days. I'm quite sure that Rolly will beat your '71' as he always did have more stamina...
Anon N. Anon - 2/24/2011 @ 1:04 PM
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